Re: Linphone for Android notifications beep in Do Not Disturb

[dahxothi]

I know this was fixed, but the last version in F-Droid hasn't been updated.

When will it be?

Thanks.


On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 01:10:34AM +0000:

>In my LineageOS settings, I select Sound → Advanced → Do Not Disturb → Notifications → No sound from notifications.
>
>But still, when I get a call in Linphone while in Do Not Disturb, the call won't ring, but afterwards the notification for the missed call beeps.
>
>Linphone is the only app giving me this problem. I think Linphone might be categorizing tits notification as "reminder" or "event". That would explain that it bypasses Do Not Disturb.
>
>Is there a way to make Linphone behave?
>
>PS: I believe this is a bug and I tried to report it in the gitlab instance at
>https://gitlab.linphone.org/BC/public/linphone-android , but there is no Sign
>Up button, only Sign In.

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[Greg Troxel]

Daniel Gonzalez Gasull <[hidden email]> writes:

> I know this was fixed, but the last version in F-Droid hasn't been updated.
>
> When will it be?

That's a question for f-droid, primarily, and the web page for libphone
probably has build logs.

Of course, I think Belladone should keep an eye on this and help,
because being in f-droid is proof of actually being Free Software.
There are apps that pretend to be Free Software but actually contain
proprietary components.  linphone on the google play store is one of
them; it uses firebase push notifications, and this is disabled in Free
builds.

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.linphone/
https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.linphone/lastbuild_4310

It might be that someone(tm) needs to test the new build and push a
change to the f-droid data repo.

I'm not seeing the new release at

  https://gitlab.linphone.org/BC/public/linphone-android/releases

and that repo's readme doesn't say it is no longer authoritative.  But I
do see a 4.3.1 at

  https://gitlab.linphone.org/BC/public/linphone-android/tags

which is on f-droid.

So are you sure there is a release after 4.3.1, or just a bugfix applies to master?

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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 07:23:39PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote:
>So are you sure there is a release after 4.3.1, or just a bugfix applies to master?

Almost a month ago someone replied to my original email saying they will change
the behavior of Linphone, and later replied again saying it had already been fixed.

I don't have those emails anymore.

If the bug is fixed but not in F-Droid, then it isn't fixed for me.  I don't
want to have apps installed outside of the app stores.  And I prefer F-Droid
whenever possible.

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[Greg Troxel]

Daniel Gonzalez Gasull <[hidden email]> writes:

> If the bug is fixed but not in F-Droid, then it isn't fixed for me.  I don't
> want to have apps installed outside of the app stores.  And I prefer F-Droid
> whenever possible.

Understandable, but just wanted to clarify that f-droid is 100% up to
date if there isn't a release that's newer than what they have.

Lately, it seems Belladone has been releasing linphone reasonably often
and it has been ending up in f-droid pretty quickly, and I appreciate
both of those happening.

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On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 01:29:36AM +0000, Eric Shields | Mass Transit Honchkrow wrote:
>the Do Not Disturb setting must be ignored. If it asks you, click Cancel.
>
>As it currently stands, version 4.2.2 is the latest version I have found.
>
>If you enable DND, calls will NOT ring. Make sure that Linphone has the
>ability to draw over other apps so that when a call DOES come in, it
>will show. If you are using another app and a call comes in, it will
>show as a banner atop the screen.

Thanks, I changed the setting for drawing over other apps.

But the problem, as explained in my original email, is that although the call
doesn't ring, the alert for the missed call *does* beep in Do Not Disturb.

That's because Linphone is setting its notifications as calendar notifications.
This forces me to block calendar notifications, which I don't want to do.

Having calendar notifications on in DND makes sense because I don't want to
miss an appointment.  But a robocall received through Linphone isn't a calendar
event.

Linphone sometimes beeps, because of a missed spam robocall, in the middle of
the night, because the number receiving the call is from a country whose
timezone is half a world away.

When I send my original email below a month ago, a couple of developers replied
to this list and fixed the bug.  But the version I get from F-Droid is still
the broken one, and that's why I'm bumping this.

>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 01:10:34AM +0000:
>>> In my LineageOS settings, I select Sound → Advanced → Do Not Disturb → Notifications → No sound from notifications.
>>>
>>> But still, when I get a call in Linphone while in Do Not Disturb, the call won't ring, but afterwards the notification for the missed call beeps.
>>>
>>> Linphone is the only app giving me this problem. I think Linphone might be categorizing tits notification as "reminder" or "event". That would explain that it bypasses Do Not Disturb.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to make Linphone behave?
>>>
>>> PS: I believe this is a bug and I tried to report it in the gitlab instance at
>>> https://gitlab.linphone.org/BC/public/linphone-android , but there is no Sign
>>> Up button, only Sign In.

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[Sylvain Berfini]

Hi,

Indeed the fix was made, but there was no official release of the
linphone-android app since, and F-Droid only build & publish when a
release is made.

So wait until we release the 4.4.0 version of linphone-android (should
happen this month), and then F-Droid should publish it's own.

Cheers,

Sylvain Berfini
Software Engineer @ Belledonne Communications

Le 04/01/2021 à 07:40, [hidden email] a écrit :

> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 01:29:36AM +0000, Eric Shields | Mass Transit Honchkrow wrote:
>> the Do Not Disturb setting must be ignored. If it asks you, click Cancel.
>>
>> As it currently stands, version 4.2.2 is the latest version I have found.
>>
>> If you enable DND, calls will NOT ring. Make sure that Linphone has the
>> ability to draw over other apps so that when a call DOES come in, it
>> will show. If you are using another app and a call comes in, it will
>> show as a banner atop the screen.
> Thanks, I changed the setting for drawing over other apps.
>
> But the problem, as explained in my original email, is that although the call
> doesn't ring, the alert for the missed call *does* beep in Do Not Disturb.
>
> That's because Linphone is setting its notifications as calendar notifications.
> This forces me to block calendar notifications, which I don't want to do.
>
> Having calendar notifications on in DND makes sense because I don't want to
> miss an appointment.  But a robocall received through Linphone isn't a calendar
> event.
>
> Linphone sometimes beeps, because of a missed spam robocall, in the middle of
> the night, because the number receiving the call is from a country whose
> timezone is half a world away.
>
> When I send my original email below a month ago, a couple of developers replied
> to this list and fixed the bug.  But the version I get from F-Droid is still
> the broken one, and that's why I'm bumping this.
>
>>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 01:10:34AM +0000:
>>>> In my LineageOS settings, I select Sound → Advanced → Do Not Disturb → Notifications → No sound from notifications.
>>>>
>>>> But still, when I get a call in Linphone while in Do Not Disturb, the call won't ring, but afterwards the notification for the missed call beeps.
>>>>
>>>> Linphone is the only app giving me this problem. I think Linphone might be categorizing tits notification as "reminder" or "event". That would explain that it bypasses Do Not Disturb.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to make Linphone behave?
>>>>
>>>> PS: I believe this is a bug and I tried to report it in the gitlab instance at
>>>> https://gitlab.linphone.org/BC/public/linphone-android , but there is no Sign
>>>> Up button, only Sign In.
>
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I agree. If Linphone has a direct download option it'd be nice. As someone who doesn't use Play Services, updates take more effort.






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On Jan 4, 2021, 1:40 AM, < [hidden email]> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 01:29:36AM +0000, Eric Shields | Mass Transit Honchkrow wrote:
>the Do Not Disturb setting must be ignored. If it asks you, click Cancel.
>
>As it currently stands, version 4.2.2 is the latest version I have found.
>
>If you enable DND, calls will NOT ring. Make sure that Linphone has the
>ability to draw over other apps so that when a call DOES come in, it
>will show. If you are using another app and a call comes in, it will
>show as a banner atop the screen.

Thanks, I changed the setting for drawing over other apps.

But the problem, as explained in my original email, is that although the call
doesn't ring, the alert for the missed call *does* beep in Do Not Disturb.

That's because Linphone is setting its notifications as calendar notifications.
This forces me to block calendar notifications, which I don't want to do.

Having calendar notifications on in DND makes sense because I don't want to
miss an appointment. But a robocall received through Linphone isn't a calendar
event.

Linphone sometimes beeps, because of a missed spam robocall, in the middle of
the night, because the number receiving the call is from a country whose
timezone is half a world away.

When I send my original email below a month ago, a couple of developers replied
to this list and fixed the bug. But the version I get from F-Droid is still
the broken one, and that's why I'm bumping this.

>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 01:10:34AM +0000:
>>> In my LineageOS settings, I select Sound → Advanced → Do Not Disturb → Notifications → No sound from notifications.
>>>
>>> But still, when I get a call in Linphone while in Do Not Disturb, the call won't ring, but afterwards the notification for the missed call beeps.
>>>
>>> Linphone is the only app giving me this problem. I think Linphone might be categorizing tits notification as "reminder" or "event". That would explain that it bypasses Do Not Disturb.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to make Linphone behave?
>>>
>>> PS: I believe this is a bug and I tried to report it in the gitlab instance at
>>> https://gitlab.linphone.org/BC/public/linphone-android , but there is no Sign
>>> Up button, only Sign In.

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On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:33:51AM +0100, Sylvain Berfini wrote:
>Indeed the fix was made, but there was no official release of the
>linphone-android app since, and F-Droid only build & publish when a
>release is made.
>
>So wait until we release the 4.4.0 version of linphone-android (should
>happen this month), and then F-Droid should publish it's own.

Great.  Thank you!

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