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caj_lists
I'm not sure where to ask this but couldn't find a more suitable
place... I realize this list is intended to be about the app but I could
not find anywhere to ask about the free server that is also offered.

Has there been some change in how devices should do registration to the
sip.linphone.org server? There are 3 different accounts on 3 different
androids that all used to register and send/receive texts just fine, but
no longer do so. I'm not sure exactly when it stopped working since the
devices sat unused for some time. The accounts are still working in
terms of login to the web portal so it is not an account problem. But
the devices no longer register, they get "Error while registering -
Unauthorized".

All 3 devices are using CSipSimple, is there some setting I need to
change to make this work again?

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Greg Troxel
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> I'm not sure where to ask this but couldn't find a more suitable
> place... I realize this list is intended to be about the app but I could
> not find anywhere to ask about the free server that is also offered.
>
> Has there been some change in how devices should do registration to the
> sip.linphone.org server? There are 3 different accounts on 3 different
> androids that all used to register and send/receive texts just fine, but
> no longer do so. I'm not sure exactly when it stopped working since the
> devices sat unused for some time. The accounts are still working in
> terms of login to the web portal so it is not an account problem. But
> the devices no longer register, they get "Error while registering -
> Unauthorized".
>
> All 3 devices are using CSipSimple, is there some setting I need to
> change to make this work again?

In the past similar questions have been asked and I do not recall seeing
satisfying answers.  I am not sure there are good reasons to consider
sip.linphone.org maintained or reliable, but I would be happy to hear
from someone at belladone that it is actively maintained.

In some of the previous problems, the issues seem to relate to the
service having SRV records to point to unusual ports (vs UDP 5060, TCP
5060 and TCP 5061).  A peek into DNS reveals:

  _sip._udp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 0 100 5060 sip6.linphone.org.
  _sip._udp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 100 5060 sip1.linphone.org.

  _sip._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 0 100 5228 sip6.linphone.org.
  _sip._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 100 5228 sip1.linphone.org.

  _sips._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 0 100 5223 sip6.linphone.org.
  _sips._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 100 5223 sip1.linphone.org.
  _sips._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 20 100 443 sip6.linphone.org.

You say you are using CSipSimple, but my impression is that CSipSimple
is really unmaintained.   When was the last release?  If the
documentation is not clear, you might file a bug asking for a doc
clarification on whether or not the SRV scheme is supported.  If
CSipSimple is unmaintained, then I don't understand a decision to use
it.

You might try the linphone app or baresip-studio:
  https://github.com/juha-h/baresip-studio/

baresip-studio is in f-droid.

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Joel Black
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We just recently created accounts and it still works for us.


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I'm not sure where to ask this but couldn't find a more suitable place... I realize this list is intended to be about the app but I could not find anywhere to ask about the free server that is also offered.

Has there been some change in how devices should do registration to the sip.linphone.org server? There are 3 different accounts on 3 different androids that all used to register and send/receive texts just fine, but no longer do so. I'm not sure exactly when it stopped working since the devices sat unused for some time. The accounts are still working in terms of login to the web portal so it is not an account problem. But the devices no longer register, they get "Error while registering - Unauthorized".

All 3 devices are using CSipSimple, is there some setting I need to change to make this work again?



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Joel Black
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We are using the Linphone client

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> I'm not sure where to ask this but couldn't find a more suitable
> place... I realize this list is intended to be about the app but I
> could not find anywhere to ask about the free server that is also offered.
>
> Has there been some change in how devices should do registration to
> the sip.linphone.org server? There are 3 different accounts on 3
> different androids that all used to register and send/receive texts
> just fine, but no longer do so. I'm not sure exactly when it stopped
> working since the devices sat unused for some time. The accounts are
> still working in terms of login to the web portal so it is not an
> account problem. But the devices no longer register, they get "Error
> while registering - Unauthorized".
>
> All 3 devices are using CSipSimple, is there some setting I need to
> change to make this work again?

In the past similar questions have been asked and I do not recall seeing satisfying answers.  I am not sure there are good reasons to consider sip.linphone.org maintained or reliable, but I would be happy to hear from someone at belladone that it is actively maintained.

In some of the previous problems, the issues seem to relate to the service having SRV records to point to unusual ports (vs UDP 5060, TCP
5060 and TCP 5061).  A peek into DNS reveals:

  _sip._udp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 0 100 5060 sip6.linphone.org.
  _sip._udp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 100 5060 sip1.linphone.org.

  _sip._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 0 100 5228 sip6.linphone.org.
  _sip._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 100 5228 sip1.linphone.org.

  _sips._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 0 100 5223 sip6.linphone.org.
  _sips._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 100 5223 sip1.linphone.org.
  _sips._tcp.sip.linphone.org. 3600 IN SRV 20 100 443 sip6.linphone.org.

You say you are using CSipSimple, but my impression is that CSipSimple
is really unmaintained.   When was the last release?  If the
documentation is not clear, you might file a bug asking for a doc clarification on whether or not the SRV scheme is supported.  If CSipSimple is unmaintained, then I don't understand a decision to use it.

You might try the linphone app or baresip-studio:
  https://github.com/juha-h/baresip-studio/

baresip-studio is in f-droid.



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We just recently created accounts and it still works for us.


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I'm not sure where to ask this but couldn't find a more suitable place... I realize this list is intended to be about the app but I could not find anywhere to ask about the free server that is also offered.

Has there been some change in how devices should do registration to the sip.linphone.org server? There are 3 different accounts on 3 different androids that all used to register and send/receive texts just fine, but no longer do so. I'm not sure exactly when it stopped working since the devices sat unused for some time. The accounts are still working in terms of login to the web portal so it is not an account problem. But the devices no longer register, they get "Error while registering - Unauthorized".

All 3 devices are using CSipSimple, is there some setting I need to change to make this work again?



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On 26 Dec 2019 4:07:36AM Joel Black <address@hidden> wrote:
> We just recently created accounts and it still works for us.

@JoelBlack, thank you for that. Might I ask what client(s)/platforms you are using?

On 25 Dec 2019 7:46:16AM Greg Troxel <address@hidden> wrote:
> In some of the previous problems, the issues seem to relate to the
> service having SRV records to point to unusual ports (vs UDP 5060, TCP
> 5060 and TCP 5061)
@GregTroxel - Looks like I will have to do some digging into logfiles to see what ports it actually tried to use, or perhaps just try entering those other odd ports along with the server names...

> You say you are using CSipSimple, but my impression is that CSipSimple
> is really unmaintained. When was the last release?

Yes, it is pretty much abandonware; it is removed from both the playstore and F-Droid main repo, and the repository on Google Code is no more. I think the code was last updated on 30Nov2014 and then put up on F-Droid on 21Feb2015. Now there just seems to be a few f-droid builds in Izzy's archive repo, a code dump of sorts plus (obsolete) issues list on Github, plus whatever was snagged by Wayback crawls before Google Code vanished. There's not much surviving documentation, mostly on Wayback which is probably not complete though a few wiki items are there.

> If the documentation is not clear, you might file a bug asking for a
> doc clarification on whether or not the SRV scheme is supported.

The stuff from Google Code is gone. Given that it is abandonware I don't expect a response at Github. I did find some changelog stuff mentioning DNS SRV support being added at version 0.00-14 which is so old I can't find the source, but must be before 0.02-02 dated 16Sep2012 (the oldest source in the Wayback crawls). I do see a checkbox in the app settings for this, which I have marked so I hope it is suitable. I probably need to check logfiles to see what it did.

However, it DID used to register even at Linphone, so either this feature works, or else it just wasn't needed at all until recently?
Also, it continues to register with other services, just not Linphone.
This is problematic since the other services don't handle texting, which is what I used the Linphone service for.

> If CSipSimple is unmaintained, then I don't understand a decision to
> use it.

That one's easy - at the time I installed it, it was the ONLY (open OR closed source) client I could find that was compatible with older devices, and could handle SIP addresses rather than only phone numbers.
Granted one of the three devices is currently running Pie (formerly Nougat and then Oreo) so it has more options, but the other two do not - one runs FroYo, the other IceCreamSandwich, with no further upgrades possible.

> You might try the linphone app or baresip-studio:
>   https://github.com/juha-h/baresip-studio/
> baresip-studio is in f-droid.

These might work for the newest device but not for the older ones.
Linphone requires at least JellyBean and baresip needs at least Lollipop. With CSipSimple I used to be able to run the same client for all 3 devices, which reduced user confusion.



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