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Still maintained?

Richard Hector
Hi all,

There seems to be next to no traffic on this list, no updates (in the
dev changelog) since 2009(?) and 53 bugs in the tracker.

Is anything being done on this package?

Is anyone reading the list?

Cheers,
Richard

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Re: Still maintained?

Dominic Raferd-3
I am still reading the list and actively using rdiff-backup, which
works well. However it seems to be effectively unmaintained and has
been for some time. I don't do python sadly. It would be great if
someone such as Patrik could take it on (as he has done so well for
rdiffweb, which provides a browser-based viewer/file retriever for
rdiff-backup archives).

On 5 February 2018 at 10:45, Richard Hector <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There seems to be next to no traffic on this list, no updates (in the
> dev changelog) since 2009(?) and 53 bugs in the tracker.
>
> Is anything being done on this package?
>
> Is anyone reading the list?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
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Re: Still maintained?

David Precious-2
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 23:45:51 +1300
Richard Hector <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There seems to be next to no traffic on this list, no updates (in the
> dev changelog) since 2009(?) and 53 bugs in the tracker.
>
> Is anything being done on this package?

sol1 took over maintainership in 2016 "with the blessing of the
original author, Ben Escoto, and from the most recent maintainer(s)";
code on GitHub with some activity:

https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup 

It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated to
refer to the Github repo.


> Is anyone reading the list?

Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-backup.

Cheers,

Dave P


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Re: Still maintained?

Richard Hector
On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 23:45:51 +1300
> Richard Hector <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There seems to be next to no traffic on this list, no updates (in the
>> dev changelog) since 2009(?) and 53 bugs in the tracker.
>>
>> Is anything being done on this package?
>
> sol1 took over maintainership in 2016 "with the blessing of the
> original author, Ben Escoto, and from the most recent maintainer(s)";
> code on GitHub with some activity:
>
> https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup 
>
> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated to
> refer to the Github repo.
>
>
>> Is anyone reading the list?
>
> Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-backup.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave P

Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)

Richard


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Re: Still maintained?

Janne Peltonen-2
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
> > It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated to
> > refer to the Github repo.

+1

> >> Is anyone reading the list?
> > Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-backup.
> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)

I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in production.


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Re: Still maintained?

Richard Hector
On 06/02/18 00:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>>> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated to
>>> refer to the Github repo.
>
> +1

Likewise the Debian package page. I could file a debian bug for that ...
but it's probably better to have the nongnu site updated first.

Richard


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Re: Still maintained?

Rudy Zijlstra-2
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On 2018-02-05 12:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>>> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated to
>>> refer to the Github repo.
> +1
>
>>>> Is anyone reading the list?
>>> Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-backup.
>> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
> I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in production.
>
Same here :)

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Re: Still maintained?

Jari Mikkilä
On 5.2.2018 13:58, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:

> On 2018-02-05 12:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>>>> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated
>>>> to
>>>> refer to the Github repo.
>> +1
>>
>>>>> Is anyone reading the list?
>>>> Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-backup.
>>> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
>> I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in
>> production.
>>
> Same here :)
>

One more.

At in home and in production systems.

- J

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Re: Still maintained?

Rainer Plum
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+1

     Rainer

home + prod

Am 05.02.2018 um 11:45 schrieb Richard Hector:

> Hi all,
>
> There seems to be next to no traffic on this list, no updates (in the
> dev changelog) since 2009(?) and 53 bugs in the tracker.
>
> Is anything being done on this package?
>
> Is anyone reading the list?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
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Re: Still maintained?

Lew Wolfgang
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On 02/05/2018 03:04 AM, David Precious wrote:
>> Is anyone reading the list?
> Well, I am, at least:)   Also still actively using rdiff-backup.

As do I!  We couldn't get along without it!  I back up dozens of
desktops and servers containing many terabytes of data.  Just
last week a user asked me to recover a file he mistakenly deleted
a few weeks ago.  For the record, the machines are all running
openSUSE Linux.

Regards,
Lew Wolfgang


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Re: Still maintained?

Glenn Hollowell
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Me too. 
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 14:45 +0200, Jari Mikkilä wrote:

> On 5.2.2018 13:58, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > On 2018-02-05 12:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were
> > > > > updated 
> > > > > to
> > > > > refer to the Github repo.
> > > +1
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone reading the list?
> > > > > Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-
> > > > > backup.
> > > > Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
> > > I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in 
> > > production.
> > >
> > Same here :)
> >
>
> One more.
>
> At in home and in production systems.
>
> - J
>
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Re: Still maintained?

Mr. Clif
+1 at home and production servers.

Also wrote this: https://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete

would be nice if that functionality could be folded back in to
Rdiff-backup. :-)

     Clif Cox

On 02/05/2018 07:43 AM, Glenn Hollowell wrote:

> Me too.
> On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 14:45 +0200, Jari Mikkilä wrote:
>> On 5.2.2018 13:58, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On 2018-02-05 12:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>>>>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>>>>>> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were
>>>>>> updated
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> refer to the Github repo.
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone reading the list?
>>>>>> Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-
>>>>>> backup.
>>>>> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
>>>> I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in
>>>> production.
>>>>
>>> Same here :)
>>>
>> One more.
>>
>> At in home and in production systems.
>>
>> - J
>>
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Re: Still maintained?

chuck odonnell
+6 production servers, one with ~1.4T data.


On 02/05/2018 01:25 PM, Mr. Clif wrote:

> +1 at home and production servers.
>
> Also wrote this:
> https://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete
>
> would be nice if that functionality could be folded back in to
> Rdiff-backup. :-)
>
>     Clif Cox
>
> On 02/05/2018 07:43 AM, Glenn Hollowell wrote:
>> Me too.
>> On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 14:45 +0200, Jari Mikkilä wrote:
>>> On 5.2.2018 13:58, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On 2018-02-05 12:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>>>>>>> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were
>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> refer to the Github repo.
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone reading the list?
>>>>>>> Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-
>>>>>>> backup.
>>>>>> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
>>>>> I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>> Same here :)
>>>>
>>> One more.
>>>
>>> At in home and in production systems.
>>>
>>> - J
>>>
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Re: Still maintained?

Patrik Dufresne-2
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Love your Rdiff-backup-delete
<https://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete>.

I should really try to integrate those feature into rdiffweb. Same for the
regress script written by Dominic.

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Mr. Clif <[hidden email]> wrote:

> +1 at home and production servers.
>
> Also wrote this: https://eugenemakerspace.com/w
> iki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete
>
> would be nice if that functionality could be folded back in to
> Rdiff-backup. :-)
>
>     Clif Cox
>
>
> On 02/05/2018 07:43 AM, Glenn Hollowell wrote:
>
>> Me too.
>> On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 14:45 +0200, Jari Mikkilä wrote:
>>
>>> On 5.2.2018 13:58, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-02-05 12:42, Janne Peltonen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were
>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> refer to the Github repo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone reading the list?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-
>>>>>>> backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same here :)
>>>>
>>>> One more.
>>>
>>> At in home and in production systems.
>>>
>>> - J
>>>
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Re: Still maintained?

Robinson, Eric-2
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I have 100 Linux servers are that dependent on rdiff-backup. Our backup strategy revolves around it. We sure hope it does not go away!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rdiff-backup-users [mailto:rdiff-backup-users-
> bounces+eric.robinson=[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lew Wolfgang
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 7:07 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Still maintained?
>
> On 02/05/2018 03:04 AM, David Precious wrote:
> >> Is anyone reading the list?
> > Well, I am, at least:)   Also still actively using rdiff-backup.
>
> As do I!  We couldn't get along without it!  I back up dozens of desktops and
> servers containing many terabytes of data.  Just last week a user asked me to
> recover a file he mistakenly deleted a few weeks ago.  For the record, the
> machines are all running openSUSE Linux.
>
> Regards,
> Lew Wolfgang
>
>
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Re: Still maintained?

Robert Nichols-2
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On 02/05/2018 12:25 PM, Mr. Clif wrote:
> +1 at home and production servers.
>
> Also wrote this: https://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete
>
> would be nice if that functionality could be folded back in to Rdiff-backup. :-)
>
>      Clif Cox

I wrote a script that does that too. Calling it merely "ugly" would be doing an injustice to all other ugly things in the world, but it works as long as there is no long_filename_data in the archive. The script resides among all the other ugly scripts I wrote to audit the rdiff-backup archive and clean up the stuff that rdiff-backup mishandles. And then there's the script I wrote to get rid of the over 4 million unnecessary "zero diff" files in my archive. That cleanup is part of my nightly backup routine now.

Yes, what has been released as "rdiff-backup" is stagnant and has its faults, but nothing else comes close to doing what it does. so it goes on. I'm not looking forward to the day when Python 2 falls by the wayside and drags all things dependent on it down too.

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Re: Still maintained?

Graeme Robinson
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On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Janne Peltonen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:27:32AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 06/02/18 00:04, David Precious wrote:
>> > It would be nice if http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ were updated to
>> > refer to the Github repo.
>
> +1
>
>> >> Is anyone reading the list?
>> > Well, I am, at least :)  Also still actively using rdiff-backup.
>> Great, thanks. At least I know I'm not alone with this :-)
>
> I'm also still following the list and using rdiff-backup in production.

Same here!

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Re: Still maintained?

Wes Cilldhaire
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> Also wrote this: https://eugenemakerspace.com/wiki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete
> would be nice if that functionality could be folded back in to Rdiff-backup.
:-)
>   Clif Cox

Hi, sorry we haven't been able to give rdiff-backup the attention it deserves
before now but we have been familiarizing ourselves with the open issues as
well as the state of the inherited codebase and unreleased changes from the
original repo before we start making new changes and deploying.  As I'm sure
you can all understand it's something that should be done delicately - I'd
hate to push a previously undeployed change without analyzing and testing it
only to find it corrupts people's backups, or likewise not deploying a pending
change people have been waiting for that fixes some critical issue.

I just wanted to let you know that we have included the functionality from
rdiff-backup-delete into the github repository as a python script already:
https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup/blob/master/rdiff-backup/misc/rdiff-backup-delete.py

There's more work to be done with it though - at the moment it's a pretty slow
algorithm that operates on supplied filenames sequentially and there is plenty
of opportunity to optimize it for better performance.

Also, people are free to submit PR's if they have bug fixes or new features
that they feel will benefit the rdiff-backup user community and we will
consider all submissions.  At this stage, momentum is slow but building and we
will address open issues in turn.  I've started to triage them internally so
we can address some low hanging fruit that won't involve drastic code changes
and hope to get some time to push these through soon.

Thanks,
Wes Cilldhaire
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Re: Still maintained?

Nicholas Bailey
On Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:03:27 GMT Wes Cilldhaire wrote:

> ...
> I just wanted to let you know that we have included the functionality from
> rdiff-backup-delete into the github repository as a python script already:
> https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup/blob/master/rdiff-backup/misc/rdiff-bac
> kup-delete.py
>
> There's more work to be done with it though - at the moment it's a pretty
> slow algorithm that operates on supplied filenames sequentially and there
> is plenty of opportunity to optimize it for better performance.
>
Thank you for posting Wes. I'm using rdiff-backup "in production" too. It's
great to hear you're on the case, and that you understand the Open Source way.

I've just been looking into Raspberry Pi and Suspend to Ram. Somebody asked
about it on their list and they said "That isn't going to happen". So glad you
are the opposite of that.

JB/.


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Re: Still maintained?

Bill Harris
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I have routinely used rdiff-backup for years. I appreciate that it just
works. I appreciate that it stores the backup uncompressed so that I don't
have to have access to rdiff-backup to restore the data if worse comes to
worst.  I appreciate that you are working carefully on useful enhancements.

More list traffic is okay, but I appreciate both that I don't have to read
a lot to use this routinely and that it seems like there are plenty of
people here who can help if there are questions.  As a result, I'm also
okay if the list is relatively quiet.

Bill

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Wes Cilldhaire <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > Also wrote this: https://eugenemakerspace.com/
> wiki/Sites/Rdiff-backup-delete
> > would be nice if that functionality could be folded back in to
> Rdiff-backup.
> :-)
> >   Clif Cox
>
> Hi, sorry we haven't been able to give rdiff-backup the attention it
> deserves
> before now but we have been familiarizing ourselves with the open issues as
> well as the state of the inherited codebase and unreleased changes from the
> original repo before we start making new changes and deploying.  As I'm
> sure
> you can all understand it's something that should be done delicately - I'd
> hate to push a previously undeployed change without analyzing and testing
> it
> only to find it corrupts people's backups, or likewise not deploying a
> pending
> change people have been waiting for that fixes some critical issue.
>
> I just wanted to let you know that we have included the functionality from
> rdiff-backup-delete into the github repository as a python script already:
> https://github.com/sol1/rdiff-backup/blob/master/rdiff-
> backup/misc/rdiff-backup-delete.py
>
> There's more work to be done with it though - at the moment it's a pretty
> slow
> algorithm that operates on supplied filenames sequentially and there is
> plenty
> of opportunity to optimize it for better performance.
>
> Also, people are free to submit PR's if they have bug fixes or new features
> that they feel will benefit the rdiff-backup user community and we will
> consider all submissions.  At this stage, momentum is slow but building
> and we
> will address open issues in turn.  I've started to triage them internally
> so
> we can address some low hanging fruit that won't involve drastic code
> changes
> and hope to get some time to push these through soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Wes Cilldhaire
> Sol1
>
>
>
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