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no monotone in Debian testing?

Stephen Leake-3
I've just installed a new Debian 10 VM, and upgraded to testing.

'aptitude search monotone' returns nothing!

Is it finally time to stop using monotone?

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-- Stephe

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Re: no monotone in Debian testing?

grarpamp
On 2/9/20, Stephen Leake <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I've just installed a new Debian 10 VM, and upgraded to testing.
> 'aptitude search monotone' returns nothing!

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=monotone
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=monotone

> Is it finally time to stop using monotone?

Opensource software projects first responsibility re OS's generally ends
at making sure the project compiles and runs on the commonly targeted
OS's, such as a generic Linux (say Debian) and BSD (say FreeBSD),
as installed from their latest OS general release. That generally
does also include integrating patches sent upstream from OS's
to meet that purpose.
It does not generally extend to supporting old OS releases,
or expending time directly creating and maintaining ports and
packages for whatever OS's,
or posting downloadable binaries that users can just compile
themselves given the first above.

Perhaps it is time if users want ports or packages,
to happily go help those OS create and maintain some.
And advertising users own monotone use cases, capabilities
strengths, of the software project among RCS communities,
creating communities of supporting users, etc.
Maybe find some cool fellow Debian'ers on monotone-users list :)


Or at least file reports of any failure of monotone to directly compile
and run on the latest OS general release after prereqs and instructions.

Therein, try compiling monotone on the latest OS general release called...

debian 10.3 "stable / buster"
freebsd 12.1

Not on an "upgraded" to some bleeding edge dev branch that even
the OS's themselves caution about potential problems, such as...

debian "testing" etc
freebsd CURRENT

And go from there :)

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Re: no monotone in Debian testing?

Brian May-11
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Stephen Leake <[hidden email]> writes:

> I've just installed a new Debian 10 VM, and upgraded to testing.
>
> 'aptitude search monotone' returns nothing!
>
> Is it finally time to stop using monotone?

monotone has been removed from Debian. As in both unstable and testing.
It only exists in old distributions.

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/monotone

First it was removed from testing:

https://tracker.debian.org/news/940070/monotone-removed-from-testing/

It was removed from testing because botan1.10 is no longer available in
testing.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888089

Then it got removed from unstable:

https://tracker.debian.org/news/1089909/removed-11-9-from-unstable/
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=943919

"Please remove monotone. It's dead upstream, last upload was over three
years ago and it's removed from testing since 1.5 years."
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Brian May <[hidden email]>

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Re: no monotone in Debian testing?

Hendrik Boom-2
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 06:05:09PM +1100, Brian May wrote:

> Stephen Leake <[hidden email]> writes:
>
> > I've just installed a new Debian 10 VM, and upgraded to testing.
> >
> > 'aptitude search monotone' returns nothing!
> >
> > Is it finally time to stop using monotone?
>
> monotone has been removed from Debian. As in both unstable and testing.
> It only exists in old distributions.
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/monotone
>
> First it was removed from testing:
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/940070/monotone-removed-from-testing/
>
> It was removed from testing because botan1.10 is no longer available in
> testing.

Is anything being done about it?

-- hendrik

>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888089
>
> Then it got removed from unstable:
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/1089909/removed-11-9-from-unstable/
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=943919
>
> "Please remove monotone. It's dead upstream, last upload was over three
> years ago and it's removed from testing since 1.5 years."
> --
> Brian May <[hidden email]>
>